In 1996 he wrote the texts of the program for kids of Tele Montecarlo "ZAP ZAP," with Ettore Bassi (photo left). In 1997, Rai 3 writes for the morning talk show "OPEN SPACE", directed by Francesca Calligaro (right), with the presence of numerous guests. The program's prime-time high, and during the episode with guest lyricist Mogol, reaching the record for Rai 3, 24% listening.